My previous conversation with Penny detailed the history of how a hidden cabal operated through the various U.S. Presidents since Truman. In this we pick up with Trump and the nature of the mindset that emerged to support him among his more intelligent followers. We go down the Q-anon and 4Chan rabbit holes of information/disinformation and ultimately come out the other side on a far more powerful topic – the future of our earth as a living entity with her own agenda. This takes us into the controversial topic of a Two-Earth scenario. As this is really two conversations in one, you’ll just have to hang on and enjoy the ride!